Saturday, April 22, 2006

Dead But Not Forgotten... R.I.P.

I sometimes drive by old shopping centers near my home and try to recall what stores and restaurants have occupied the location before the current one... its this stupid mental game i play to see how bad my long term memory has eroded..

here's a list of old stores, restaurant chains and misc places that are long gone, but still very much alive in the neural activity of my shriveling dendrites..

some restaurants may have a few odd locations still hanging on, but nothing like they used to...

feel free to add to the list

Alpha Beta
Montgomery Wards
White Front
Best Products
Price Club
JK Gill
Stop N Go

Federated Group (Fred Rated!)
Leos Stereo
Pacific Stereo
Licorice Pizza
The Wherehouse
Sega Center

National Lumber ( Cheap Chicken!)

Pup N Taco
Pioneer Chicken
Penguins Yogurt
Farrells Ice Cream
Straw Hat Pizza
Red Devil Pizza
29cent Hamburger Stand
Bobs Big Boy (making a comeback in the 909!)


Blogger jackt said...

Man I really miss Farrell's. I was just telling my wife about it when we moved to L.A. 3 years ago (she's never lived here before), and then I find out it's now a Chinese restaurant. What a travesty.

Malibu Grand Prix
Busch Gardens
Plaza Pasadena
Edwards Theaters Temple City
Siam Restaurant (Hollywood Blvd before it became Thai Town)
Service Merchandise
Egghead Software
Good Guys (out of business and liquidated I believe)

12:34 AM  
Blogger rick james said...


kirk had a great post on farrell's


marineland... wow...PV, when you could still find abalone off the shore... wow..

12:57 AM  
Anonymous Kirk said...

Hey DCCF - I heard Farrell's is making a comeback. we'll see......I really miss Pioneer Chicken! Even Chicken Delite....

11:15 PM  
Blogger eatdrinknbmerry said...

dccf, funny post. i remember Gemco and Montgomery Ward the most. what about Woolworth's? another quality store haha.

2:23 PM  
Blogger rick james said...

hey kirk,

would be great even if Farrells had a few stores open up again... you know, Pioneer Chicken was unique, unlike any other friend chicken i've ever had... i think there's still one in hollywood somewhere..

hey ednbm,

woolworths.. i remember some of them even had a soda fountain/restaurant...

anyone remember Builder's Emporium?? that was pre- Home Depot days...

3:17 PM  
Blogger rick james said...

there were a lot of bad 80's clothing stores i forgot to mention..

anyone remember Oaktree ?

i think they were known for the famous "thin" tie and their mustard colored Bobby Brown suits... yuck

3:35 PM  
Blogger Daily Gluttony said...

OMG, I love this post...so nostalgic!

I remmeber my mom would buy us 8 tracks from Montgomery Wards. And pizza and candy from Woolworth's. Pizza which by the way was good then as a kid but prolly really tasted like ass.

As for fashion:
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I'm sure I'll think of more

3:40 PM  
Blogger Daily Gluttony said...

and I totally remember Sambo's too--wasn't that the Denny's like chain with the Tiger mascot?

3:41 PM  
Blogger rick james said...

hey dg,

we used to eat pizza snacks and icees at kmart back in the day too...funny how you remember the junk food stuff back when...

Sambos was kinda controversial, cause they said it was racial with "little black sambo" as the early painted face mascot just before the tiger... the owner's claimed he was Indian, but who really knows cause a "Sambo" is still considered a derogetory comment even now...

9:14 PM  
Blogger rick james said...


for our younger audience...

there was never any Pizza at Licorice Pizza, it was a "record" store ! i think they died out years before cd's even came out... scary..

and if you don't know what a record is you can ask Uncle Kirk.. ;)

10:34 PM  
Blogger Christine D. said...

Fedco!! I was so sad when they closed up and sold their location to Target. Someone called them "The Last of the Mohicans." haha corny..but so true.
Everything was so cheap there. Was it because mostly "old" people shopped there?

*sigh* Glad to see someone else who misses it.

11:09 PM  
Blogger Jeni said...

Gemco was the bomb! Remember when the Broadway's was the glamorous department store? And JC Penney's. I got all my Laker Showtime t-shirts from Penney's.

Thanks for the post DCCF...I'm gonna go to bed dreaming about Pioneer's Chicken! (btw, there's one on Olympic/Fairfax!)

1:10 AM  
Blogger eatdrinknbmerry said...

i totally remember builder's emporium. i think the employees had to wear ugly blue vests w/ a white name patch. sucks. haha.

12:46 PM  
Blogger rick james said...

hi christine,

i think fedco was part of some government employee membership or something... my friend swears by Fedco Pizza as the best thin crust ever, but i have to question her cause i think she was like 5 when she had it...

hey jeni!

showtime! michael cooper in his really short, shorts and long white socks... can't forget that...

gemco, broadway, pioneer chicken... definite blasts from the past.. i wanna throw out a dare and maybe someone can go try the last Pioneer Chicken to see if its still the same as before... if i can get around there first i'll let you know.... and you need to get over to Marios girl!


i'm convinced you can only store so much junk in your brain without running out of RAM... i mean do i really need to store the layout, color scheme and stocked items of Builders Emporium ??? i really wish i could delete some of this stuff but i think i'm stuck with it... oh well, i guess i need it cause i'm always comparing past and present..

1:20 PM  
Blogger BoLA said...

Hahaha.... I was so gonna say that there's still a Pioneer Chicken around. I also like the fried chicken at Golden Bird off of Pico and Rimpau. Deliciously crispy! YUM! I miss Carnations Restaurant, Music Plus, and all the other ones listed on your list. Great post!

8:17 PM  
Blogger Passionate Eater said...

When I read the words "Alpha Beta," tears from memory lane literally fell down my cheeks. Damn, am I that old? Here are four more I haven't seen in a while:

Sprouse Ritz (Discount) Stores
Payless Drug Stores
Lucky's Supermarkets
MegaFoods Warehouse

Also, I miss the Pizza Hut restaurants. I'm talking about the "sit down" restaurants, and not the delivery places. Yea, those places where you could get the Pizza Hut buffet, and play PacMan on those sit-down table arcade machines!

And what about those toy stores where you "turn your frown upside down"?

12:23 AM  
Anonymous Kirk said...

"Uncle Kirk"....ouch! But I do remember how life was like before ATMs.......

Here's one on Restaurants and Bars that have closed in Hawaii - but thing is, I remember almost all of them:


7:41 AM  
Blogger rick james said...

hi bola,

i totally forgot about music plus and everyone always talks about Golden Bird, and how greasy nasty it is.

hi p.e.,

its funny how a lot of business models like "sit down" Pizza Huts just become obsolete. its too bad, cause i really liked the old school drive up A&W restaurants, not the fake ones they have now.

hi kirk,

i think i'm older than all ya'll,
so i dragged you along for company. lol! i'll call you from my rotary phone.

8:25 AM  
Blogger Harry said...

Check out the Bob's Big Boy off the 10 Freeway in or around Yucaipa. It's the only one I've seen, and we take lots of long road trips.

1:47 PM  
Blogger rick james said...

hi harry,

thanks for the info, that's one of the better ones i've been to.

they just built one in Barstow and there's one in Diamond Bar thats pretty decent. i think the Yucaipa one tastes the best though..

8:53 PM  
Blogger Kevster said...

You know, just looking at your list and noted National Lumber on there.... Got to include Ole's and Wallpapers-To-Go on that list.

Oh, and how about the Sega Center over at Montclair Plaza (always play there after getting a slice from Ardella's pizza!)

10:30 AM  
Blogger k said...

Hello! Just stopping by...this list is great! I had to laugh when I saw..Gemco, Best, Fedco, Pup N Taco, Naugles, and Farrell's. It brought me back to 1980.... :X Oy, I think I'm dating myself a bit!

Pup n taco had the greatest slushy things. I also never understood its name...but, catchy nonetheless.

4:10 PM  
Blogger Christine D. said...

Haha it's been a few weeks since my first comment. I swear...just like your friend, I think that Fedco had one of the best pizzas!! But I was also pretty young when I last ate it, so i don't know how sophisticated our tastebuds are to validate our opinions. haha!

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Blogger JT said...

I loved Lucky's and the ads (TV and Radio) voiced by Stephanie Edwards. there was something so local about that....and seemingly forever about her ads. And then they were gone. I loved the Lucky's logo too. I'm surprised that isn't an Urban Outfitters ironic t-shirt yet! I found this on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/eyetwist/83935627/

Carpeteria also had the most amazing theme song. I have that in my head to this day. I probably heard it for the first time in like 1976 or something. Of all the songs to have in your head for 95% of your life... "Carpeteria... Carpeteria!" (There is one location left that I've seen downtown...but it seems not for the public....)

1:36 PM  
Anonymous Sophia said...

There's actually a Bob's Big Boy down Wilshire in the Mid-Wilshire district (somewhere b/t Crenshaw and Fairfax, I believe). And I thought I saw a Pioneer Chicken on Sunset, near Echo Park Blvd. Never actually got the chance to hit either of the two trips down memory lane, but it's awesome to read through all of these places. I was just thinking about Lucky's the other day...

10:43 PM  
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I miss Fedco chicken. Does any one know if it was a chain or were to find a recipe?

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Anonymous Desert Tripper said...

A few more I remember -

Two Guys (Beep-beep-mm-beep-beep!)

Sage's grocery store (San Bernardino area; SB's adult school, once a Sage's, now has a name with the acronym S.A.G.E.S.)

Market Basket (there was one in Redlands; not sure if it was an independent or a chain.) Also there was a small independent Redlands chain called Gerrard's with 2 stores.

Monkey Ward's, Broadway and May Co. department stores, and Harris' (small chain in San Bernardino area)

BEST - Now that was a cool store! They had the stuff no one else had. It was cool waiting for your order to come down the roller chute from the upper floor warehouse.

Mark C. Bloome Tires; Winston Tires

Andy Granatelli Tune-up Masters (remember that funny logo? - they supposedly had reps patrolling the LA area looking for cars displaying the logo and giving the drivers prizes)

Super Shops automotive performance centers

Another stereo chain (can't remember the name now!) with a blabbermouth named Tom Campbell hyping big deals on radio ads. I always remember he said "programpable" instead of "programmable."

DAK (mail order place based in Chatsworth.) Remember the fascination when a DAK catalog came in the mail? Ditto for JS&A.

Yeah, Fedco and Farrell's. Two F's I miss very much. Fedco was my mom's favorite place and I pretty much grew up with it. I could still walk the San Bernardino store blindfolded if I could make it come back. :( I always remember the sign over the drinking fountain in the later years with the photo of the LA Coliseum that said more people shop at Fedco every week than attended the 1984 Olympic opening ceremonies! And of course the Texas Size popcorn and the yummy Mexican food from the deli. Oh, and the old typewriter section back in the early 70s, that had a blue light that meant the electric typewriters were turned on. And oh! the ecstasy when the garden department became the toy department!!

And Farrell's - SUEY! SUEY! Out comes the Trough! And I can't remember the other big honkin' ice cream bowl but they'd bring it out on a 2-man stretcher with a siren and drum as accompaniment. The junior class at my high school in Escondido had the senior river trip "welcome home" party for us at Farrell's and it was a blast! My dad, however, said Farrell's didn't hold a candle to his favorite childhood ice cream place, the (most likely also defunct) Highland Dairy in New Britain, CT. For a mere thirty-five cents they had a bowl called the "Steamboat" that put the Trough to shame!

Oh yeah, remember the Federated commercial where Fred Rated was running at some insane speed down freeways and stuff while chanting "Federated" at an increasingly feverish pitch then smashed out a window? Wild!! I used to rent movies from their National City store all the time when in the Navy.

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Anonymous knuckledragger said...

I love your nostalgia trip! I am probably older than most readers and will try to tie together some things that have been lost to the ages. But before I do that, I need to add one more name to the list: Shakey's pizza parlors (and ye public house). They aren't all gone yet, but soon will be. I used to go with my family and another family, we would order the thin crust pizzas (because that is all they made), pitchers of beer for the folks, coke, root beer and strawberry for the kids. there was a player piano with flourescent colored keys to watch under a black light that played all sorts of musical styles.

What got me here was the search for pizza pups that were apparently only found at Fedco. It was a slice of the thin cheese pizza wrapped around a hot dog and put into the oven for an ungodly time (probably only 2 or 3 minutes, but I was hungry and salivating), and when you tried to eat it, the crust was so dry it scratched your mouth and the cheese was so hot, it burned your tongue. Delicious and a true taste treat!

Pup and Taco served slushes, the forerunner of the frozen foamy things you buy at 7-11 now. They also had combo burritos that gave instant and enduring stinky gas attacks.

Woolworth is the most interesting story. It had its start in 1879 in Lancaster, PA, spread all over the country, and did have lunch counters. It was the 30's-50's idea of walmart, selling just about anything you could think of for less than anywhere else around. In the 1970's, the writing was on the walls that the 5 and 10 cent stores were about out of gas, so Woolworth diversified. They opened all sorts of speciality stores in the new covered malls that were popping up all over the country. Foot Locker,Kinney shoes, Best of Times, Northern Reflections and others. In 1979, the group was the largest retailer in the world.

Farrell's was owned by Thrifty drug stores, and used thrifty ice cream (which is still sold at Sav-on). The big huge bowl was called the Mt Whitney here in Southern California, but went by other names in other parts of the country. I was at a Farrell's in Hawaii in the 1970s and it was called by some volcano name. Makes sense. The Trough , as enormous as it seemed, was only a double banana split. Only? I still have a few ribbons awarded for ordering and eating a trough.

Pioneer chicken was a true treat for me growing up. The sweet, crispy batter was truly something to remember. If I can find one still making the chicken the old way, I will be set.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about Tastee Freeze!
Orange Julius
Tilt! The arcade place ( actually think I've seen one not too long ago)
Miller's Outpost
Smarty Pants (cool 80's clothes)

12:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fayva Shoes
Clark's Drugstore

12:42 AM  
Blogger MyManZaphod said...

Fedco-gov't employee discount place, as I remember

Mongomery Wards- last heard to be mail-order only

Pioneer Chicken- remembered for their greasy birds

J J Newberrys- I worked at one with an attached lunch counter kind of place. If an employee wished, they could have their meal tab deducted from their next paycheck.

Shakey's Pizza- one just opened up, in the past year, in the Fresno/Clovis (Ca.) area.

In California, Safeway is, roughly, north of Interstate 80 and Vons south of there.

Thrifty's is associated with Rite Aid(e?)

Sambo's- last known to be at their original location in Santa Barbara, Ca. if in name only. One ironic point- I worked with a Black (is this PC? please forgive me if I offend) male who actually had the name of Sambo- fuzzy memory is that was the family name and never considered him anything less than a friend.

I, too, found it interesting to take a trip down "memory lane"- with neither good nor bad remembrances.

9:47 PM  
Blogger MyManZaphod said...

Another place I remember= Winchell's Donuts- haven't seen one in twenty years or more.

10:05 PM  
Anonymous Jo said...

I know there is a Farrells up in the valencia, santa clarita area? went there a year ago just because I missed going as a kid. it's at a mini golf coarse. Definitly not like how it used to be. Remeber all the salt water taffy?

7:09 PM  
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Japanese Village & Deer Park, in Buena Park, CA.............
Lucky Supermarket recently re-opened a store in Alhambra, CA

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

In Southern California in the Los Angeles area we had:
Two Guys Department Stores
The Hollendar Cafeteria
Time Out Arcades
Cars of The Stars (Nr Disneyland)
The Island at Knotts Berry Farm
The Aligator Farm in Buena Park
Licorice Pizza (record store)
Jewelcor (catalog)
Stox Resturants
Software Etc.
Sega Centers
Enchanted Village
and others that have been listed already.

5:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh and the Blue Chips stores where you got your coupons at the grocery store and saved them in a book to buy your Christmas presents

5:16 PM  
Blogger iamzzyzx said...

You can add the following to the list:

Bally's Great Escape
Angel's Hardware
Home Club
Rexall Drug Store
Flaky Jake's
The Velvet Turtle
Pussycat Theatres
Jolly Roger's
Sir George's Smorgasbord.
Howard Johnsons's restarants in the malls.

I remember Bullock's especially during the holidays when they would sell this chocolate rum cake.

Sega center w/their "octogonal tokens"

There's a Winchell's Donut in Orange off of Tustin Ave. between Katella and Chapman.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh God... these blogs really made me nostalgic! some of these places i had not thought about in several years until i read them here. wow... i used to work the Licorice Pizza at the Vineyard in Escondido, California from 1985-1989. it was a great era that ended when Musicland bought it out and changed the name to Sam Goody. I also remember a fast food chicken restaurant called Picknickin' Chicken (It's the pick of the chick!) Good Times....

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember Gay 90's on Redlands Blvd. next to the railroad tracks. U of R students hung out their for excellent pizza and beer. My sisters and I worked at M J's on Q. The had the best burritos and the large sodas were HUGE.

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don't forget Miller's Outpost

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately you can now add the classic Tower Records to this list now!!

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about Boys Supermarket I used to shop at in Carson.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got my first super secret spy decoder ring from Pioneer Chicken. I sent off for it and has to wait all summer for it. I loved that thing. Now if only I could remember where I put it...lol

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Standard Brands, R and B Furniture, Johnnie's Burger's in Downey with the classic car shows. The House of Pies, Famous Amos Cookie House in Hollywood. Mrs. Fields Cookies. House of Burgers Hamburger Stands.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fedco started as a place for government employees. Their membership was $5(lifetime). Later on, they opened the chain to the rest of the public. Public lifetime membership was $10. I too remember the pizza sold at the Fedco. I don't know what it is, but its one of those pizzas that I will never forget and wish I could have just one more slice all these years after.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

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The Akron
Pizza Man
Golden Bird
Round Table Pizza
Naugles (before they became "Del Taco")
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Jack Stefan
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Also remember Builder's Emporium had that cool beaver mascot and you could pick up the phone and talk to "Pop Larson"

I really wish some former employee saved the recipe for Fedco pizza... best pizza ever.

Thank God Norm's and Hot Dog on a Stick are still around.

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Clifton Cafeterias
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